K-8 ([info]consciousobject) wrote,
@ 2008-02-22 00:00:00
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Entry tags:bondage, living objects, objectification, plaster, sensory deprivation

Bondage Objectification Art
Utsumi pointed me to this segment from an art documentary. This Antony Gormley guy is brilliant...he's come up with the idea to create performance art pieces that involve someone else covering *him* in head-to-toe plaster. Why the hell did I not think of this?? ;-P



At the end of the clip, he elaborates on the meaning of his art:

"I am that object. And that seems to me an enormous advantage. I mean, it's so simple really...I mean, you cannot...you cannot ever be inside another substance as you are inside you're own body, and that is the advantage that I want to make the most use of as possible. So, when I'm standing, or in a particular position for a pose, it's simply a concentration where I am attempting to unite my physical and mental self, into that...into that total form."

So you mean all I'd have to do is be completely honest, but leave out the "plus, I find it kind of hot" part? ;-)

I can imagine in another world, one where I'm a little more courageous, doing a similar set of pieces involving being bound or encased and functioning temporarily as various objects, with an artist statement saying something like that it's a "commentary on the objectification of women in society." Maybe I could even figure out some angle to put on the art where my statement wouldn't even be the usual BS so many fine artists tell. Bondage art for feminism, wouldn't that be brilliant? ;-)



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very much identify with y'all
[info]rigker
2008-02-22 07:19 am UTC (link)
It's so sad how bondage for what it is has melted like an ice cube in a sea of sadomasochism. I competely understand these mindspaces you link to K-8.
I'm not sure how the transition away from bondage to only employing bondage as a "annoying and time consuming" step to be dispensed with as quickly as possible to get to sadomasochism has taken over in groups and gatherings.
Twenty years ago, a bondage lovers group (and I was always in 'em) would have asked people who only saw bondage as a means to sadomasochism to find a group more suited to themselves. The SM'ers did not even want to be in our bondage group. Everybody got along just fine in the two camps.
Especially disturbing to me is there are women who come out to gatherings with bondage potential, but won't take a step into any exploration of it because they don't feel comfortable with the implicit sadomasochism or the implied sexual intercourse, both of which make total sense to me.
I don't want any "femdom" either, and that couple with the women in the group above have been shipwrecked on a remote kink.

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Re: very much identify with y'all
[info]rmjwell
2008-02-22 01:50 pm UTC (link)
Come out to San Francisco. Bondage for bondage's sake is alive and well.

Edited at 2008-02-22 01:51 pm UTC

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Re: very much identify with y'all
(Anonymous)
2008-02-23 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Indeed. So melted that I've always been wondering whether it could be possible to find people interested just in bondage without the sadomasochism part...

Sick Puppy

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Re: very much identify with y'all
[info]consciousobject
2008-02-24 04:55 am UTC (link)
Maybe we need to start up a personals site similar to CollarMe.com, but focused more specifically on bondage-for-bondage-sake (isn't it ironic that Bondage.com isn't centered quite on what you think it would be?).

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Twice brilliant, at least
(Anonymous)
2008-02-23 10:16 pm UTC (link)
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Re: Twice brilliant, at least
[info]rigker
2008-02-23 11:08 pm UTC (link)
yes indeed.
It is encouraging to hear from others to do with bondage for bondage sake.
Eventually it may be possible for rope lovers and bondage enthusiasts to find one another, my area and perhaps others. The entire bondage scene has been "hijacked away" from what it used to be here. And I have lived in this area for a long time.
As I continue to mention, I have nothing against others doing whatever to one another sadomasochistically. There has been some progress here towards a person identifying themselves as a sadist or masochist who uses some bondage stuff like a "piece in the toolbox" so to say.
What is unfortunate is to find this out after going through all the time and effort of travelling somewhere, taking items, spending money on admission, to just sit there rejected because no one has any interest in what you came there for.
If there is anybody here that has the same observation, say hello sometime would you?

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