K-8 ([info]consciousobject) wrote,
@ 2009-09-07 00:44:00
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Entry tags:bondage, experiences, hypnosis, mannequins, statues

Hypnotized
Y'know, one thing I don't think I've ever talked about in my silly little blog here are my early explorations of hypnosis. So I thought I'd tell you about the first time I was ever successfully hypnotized.

I think I've been interested in hypnosis since the first moment I was aware of the concept, but what may've really heightened my interest was my first time seeing a stage hypnosis act in person. At my high school, they would hire one each year as part of the Homecoming Week festivities.

If you've ever been to one of these stage acts, you know the first thing they do is try a little test that the entire audience can participate in. This is so they can tell right off the bat who the most suggestible people in the audience are, since not everyone is equally suggestible to hypnosis. It's usually things like being asked to clasp your hands together, and discovering they are now locked together until the hypnotist says release, and a visualization one where you close your eyes and imagine a balloon tied to your wrist, which slowly causes your wrist to rise. This last one in particular is especially effective for the stage hypnotist, because generally the higher their hand is in the air, the more suggestible they likely are. In fact, its like they've already raised their hands to volunteer, which is why this is the last one he does before gathering volunteers.

I remember the first couple times I attended these acts, I was afraid to participate in these small test examples. This was partly out of fear that it would end up working and friends would somehow convince me to go up on stage, which I did not want to do. But also, just a general fear of losing control of myself and/or my inhibitions in front of a group of people. This may sound silly, but that's also the main reason I've never been interested in trying alcohol.

Anyways, a long story slightly less long, toward the end I finally worked up the courage to see if the audience participation bits would work on me. And what I discovered was...they didn't. At all. At first I thought maybe it was because I was up in the balcony, and maybe hypnosis had something to do with range from the hypnotist (which it doesn't, btw). At the very last school hypnotist act I attended, I sat down on the floor, closer to the stage, and tried it again. And nope, nothing.

For a long while, I was convinced I was simply unhypnotizable. The irony, having such a strong interest in being hypnotized, and being completely immune to it.

In college, I discovered a free-hypnosis-mp3s website that I hesitate to name, but it was called Warp My Mind. I decided to give these a go, to experiment further and figure out if maybe different techniques might work on me. The site had various different inductions, but none of which seemed to have any effect on me. For my test to see if it worked, I used a freeze trigger trance file, which was followed by an mp3 of him giving the trigger, followed by some silence and then a release trigger. But no induction seemed to work.

I started to wonder if maybe i was doing it wrong. People are supposed to forget the trance generally, aren't they? Maybe I'm listening *too* closely, and I'm supposed to sort of not listen to it consciously in order to let it sink into my subconscious. I tried falling asleep to induction files, letting files play while I slept, etc. Nothing. (In hindsight, I think it was just the sound of boredom in his voice kind of grating on me, and the background noise of cars driving by outside his window being extremely distracting.)

One day while reading up on instances of hypnosis not working for people, I came across one comment where someone said they'd had a partner who didn't at first seem effected by the hypnosis, but that if they said the trigger word several times in a row, rather than just once, it seemed to stick then. So I decided to try that.

I loaded up my trusty CD walkman with the disc of burned mp3s once again, and this time when he spoke the trigger word, I pressed the "back" button so that the word would repeat again.

"Nope, nothing." Back.

"Still nothing." Back.

"Again, nothing. Wait. Why am I not pressing the back button? I can't seem to get my finger to push it...whoa, I can't move!"

And that's the first time I ever got hypnosis to work. Of course, being as into "the struggle" as I am, I couldn't help but try to test myself to see if I could break out of it before the release trigger...which I did, after only 10 seconds or so. But after that, hypnosis became much easier, and I've had some pretty decent luck with several different people, including being once frozen in front of my monitor for around a half hour. But those are stories for another time.




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[info]izzyryu
2009-09-07 07:12 am UTC (link)
That's pretty awesome. I've tried a few WMM files, with varying degrees of success, though the freeze one worked very well on me. My interest waned somewhat, since the mp3s are rather...well...one-sided, I suppose. I like the idea of being hypnotized by someone online in theory, but in practice I've had bad luck with the hypnotists I've found. Too many creeps. :(

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[info]consciousobject
2009-09-07 04:20 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I had that experience as well back when I was first exploring online...too many creeps.

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[info]gwen666
2009-09-07 07:12 am UTC (link)
I think with stage hypnotism there are some people that want permission to loose their inhibitions in front of an audience. They rely on people like you who afraid it might be true to refuse to undergo the test so they have an excuse to let their inhibitions loose (I wasn't in control, I couldn't stop myself, I don't remember).
There is a little of therapeutic hypnosis in the stage hypnotists act so some of his subjects may find themselves in a trance and subject to suggestion but a room full of laughing colleagues is hardly the setting for relaxation to the point of semi-consciousness.
I saw a stage hypnotist at "SEXPO" (sex and lifestyle expo), he had a group of 'volunteers' on stage and gave them each a dildoh and suggested it was an icecream that became more delicious with each lick. One very macho participant couldn't bring himself to put it near his mouth, he kept prodding it with his finger. His reluctance to submit to the hypnotist's suggestions betrayed the fact that he wasn't under hypnosis at all, he just wanted to be at the centre of attention.

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[info]consciousobject
2009-09-07 04:41 pm UTC (link)
It's true that some probably use it as an excuse, or even that are under at first but later come up, but I've seen other instances where a person was clearly feeling the effects.

For example, one time there was a particularly outgoing person in my grade who ended up one of the people on stage. You could figure she might be one of those people looking for an excuse to be the center of attention. The hypnotist was doing a suggestion where whenever he said a particular word, she'd feel a strong pinch on her thigh. At first it went as it probably normally does, with her feeling this pinch and then looking around and not seeing anybody behind her. Although from how loudly she was saying "OUCH!" and the uncomfortable look on her face, it seemed like it was hurting her a little more than the hypnotist probably meant it to. On the third pinch, she ended up running back stage and hiding, with a look on her face like she was running from a wasp's nest. The hypnotist's assistant had to go back stage and find her, and I guess convinced her to come back out. Maybe she was just acting afraid to get more attention? Or maybe she was just that suggestible.

I've also seen a few people end up on stage who are not the type who normally like to be the center of attention. I remember in my senior year in particular, one person in my grade who tended to be more of a shy type. And the hypnotist had him doing all sorts of things I never would have expected this person would've just gone along with. He even lasted right until the very end of it, when there were only four of them left on stage. And then had these last four guys (all male) convinced that they were supermodels in a beauty pageant and trying to win the contest. It was very bizarre.

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[info]coyoteseven
2009-09-07 09:11 am UTC (link)
I remember Warp My Mind. That was an interesting site, but I didn't really try anything there!

I totally understand where you're coming from with the hypnosis thing, though. It's amusingly ironic, I think.

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(Anonymous)
2009-09-07 02:42 pm UTC (link)
"just a general fear of losing control of myself and/or my inhibitions in front of a group of people. This may sound silly, but that's also the main reason I've never been interested in trying alcohol."

Not at all. In fact, the desire to not lose control of oneself is the primary reason I've never tried alcohol (or other mind-altering substances) of any sort in my four decades of life as well.

In fact, I personally am of the opinion that virtually all fetishes are related to either loss of control or the acquisition of it. Not just the obvious ones, of course; those are a given. Bondage? Loss of control over one's movements. Hypnosis? Loss of control over your mental processes. But quite a lot of stuff, from Furry to Diaper to Vore, are all in some way connected to the concept of control. It's kind of like the great Kink Equalizer!

And, as such, I've found that those that like to be in control of themselves the most, often tend to be the ones who have the most intimate fetishes along these lines. We have such a firm desire to control ourselves in any situation, the lack of some aspect of that is just that much more of a 'forbidden fruit' -- not necessarily by society, but moreso by our own psyches.

Steve M

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[info]consciousobject
2009-09-07 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I've noticed that just about all of my fetishes involve some sort of aspect of loss of control. But like you said, my versions of loss of control tend to be a little more intimate or private, because I have a thing about not wanting to lose control in a public setting. Which would be why I wouldn't consider participating in stage hypnosis (even now) despite my hypno-fetish, but have participated in more private one-on-one things. Even a small group of people who were all similarly hypno-fetishists would be fine with me.

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[info]spir7u
2009-09-07 05:35 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I'd say my hypnosis fetish is ironically tied into a fear of losing control too. Actually I used to be both intrigued and terrified by hypnosis itself - I never went to a hypnosis show, but in seventh grade health class the teacher hypnotized us (though the word hypnosis was never mentioned) and I remember getting myself all stressed out, deliberately resisting it. When I first started trying tapes a year and a half ago I had a really hard time letting go at first, but I finally got over it.

man Warp My Mind is kinda messed up, girl :(

It's a shame how many wannabe erotic hypnotists out there are creepy and/or have no idea what they're doing. Hopefully as the fetish becomes more known/common that'll change a bit?

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[info]consciousobject
2009-09-07 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, WMM was already sorta creepy when I first came across it like 5 or 6 years ago...I haven't really checked it out since, but I can only imagine its continued to grow creepier.

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[info]izzyryu
2009-09-08 02:20 am UTC (link)
It's still around, and I swing by every so often to see if they made any interesting files free. And yeah. It's only gotten creepier. The forums there have a rather...creative...interpretation of what constitutes consent, for example. And one of the worst hypno-creeps I've run across came from there (He tried to get me to give out my real name and phone number while I was under, after I specifically told him not to. Ass.). Got a pretty bad vibe off the site owner too, for other reasons. Damn shame. :\

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[info]cyborg_kitty100
2009-09-08 12:39 am UTC (link)
oh yes, I remember when WMM came about. I found hypnotic stuff also was pretty infective on me, and gave up on it quickly.

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(Anonymous)
2009-09-09 05:13 am UTC (link)
Those are some pretty interesting stories, K-8, and I'd love to hear more of them, to get ideas of how to incorporate hypnosis into my stories.

-EL_R

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[info]consciousobject
2009-09-09 05:37 am UTC (link)
The problem is that there weren't very many really memorable ones (you can only be frozen in front of your computer in text chat so many times before they all kind of blend together). And of the memorable ones, many are bad experiences that I don't really want to talk about. Which, along with trances where things spectacularly failed to work, led to me not having pursued hypnosis for years.

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